[After a moment, Shuyin turns his head and returns the gaze. His eyes are a little colder than his dream counterparts were. He hadn't been exploring Spira as much when Seymour was around but he'd heard of him. It takes a little while for the recognition to set in.]

They're vicious and violent. The only reason our war went on so long was because their machina was more developed than what we had.

[He knows that it became the religious capital of Spira after Yu Yevon went crazy, what other explanation was there for what happened after all, that they hid Vegnangun so deep that some of the Maesters didn't even know about it.

But he did. A part of him still itches to use it.]